| The Green Pajamas
Interview

The Green Pajamas are a unanimous favorite here
at Parasol. Theyre the kind of band you want to win the lottery for, to
insure that if they dont have a record deal, you can keep them
well-stocked in blank tape, guitar strings and studio time. Most widely known
as the band that penned Material Issues hit "Kim the Waitress"
(available on the collection "Indian Winter"), Green Pajamas have
been recording since the mid-80s, and in early 1999 released "All
Clues Lead to Meagans Bed" on Australias Camera Obscura label.
Click here to go to the
Green Pajamas web page for a more comprehensive bio. Though Ive seen them
described as psych and folk and pop and rock (and various permutations
thereof), GP combines all of these elements with literate lyrics, into a
satisfying whole. Though unknown to the mainstream the band has pockets of hard
core fans led by the British fanzine Ptolemaic Terrascope. In fact, in the
interview following I have tried not to duplicate the questions Jud Cost asked
Green Pajamas in an interview that ran in Ptolemaic Terrascope #25. If you have
some follow up questions yourself, please feel free to e-mail the band care of
bassist Joe Ross at: joeross@seanet.com. Members
Joe Ross and principal songwriter Jeff Kelly were kind enough to conduct this
e-mail interview with Parasols Michael Roux. Karl Wilhelm and Eric
Lichter chipped in at the end on "The Quick Six."
I must confess to being a recent Green
Pajamas devotee. It wasn't until I started working at Parasol and somewhat
after "Strung Behind The Sun" was released that I heard your music.
Have there been specific points in the past 18 months, besides maybe
Terrastock, when you felt like you were reaching a new
audience?
JOE: Our new CD has reached number 1 on several
college radio charts and that is a first for us.
JEFF: Yes. With "Meagan's Bed"
specifically. People are responding well to this one. It was number-one at WMBR
for two or three weeks so there are certainly new people hearing us.
Has the Internet in any way changed the
way you communicate with your audience?
JOE: Well I do get a lot of emails now (my
address is the one on our website) that need to be responded to, but we have
always received a fair amount of letters that needed to be responded to, but it
is a lot easier now, I guess.
JEFF: It has changed very much the communication
between people like Tony Dale at Camera Obscura in Australia which enables a
new efficiency not matched in the past. This, in turn, effects our audience in
a positive way.
I read in Ptolemaic Terrsacope #25 that
Jeff has an album titled "The Rosary in the House of Jade" in the
can. What is the status of that release?
JOE: I got a home run cassette of it for
Christmas.
JEFF: It is being released as part of a 4 CD box
set of some of my solo recordings. It will be out in the fall of this year, I
imagine.
Jeff's "Ash Wednesday Rain"
was recorded on an eight-track cassette recorder. I love the sonic quality of
that album. It doesn't at all sound like it was recorded on cassette. Were
"Strung Behind The Sun" and "All Clues
" recorded in a
similar fashion? If not, what are the differences?
JOE: Yes, the very same deck. Jeff is a genius
when it comes to recording. He utilizes the quality (or lack there-of) of
whatever equipment is at hand to create an atmosphere of sound that draws you
in.
JEFF: Yeah, they were recorded the same way. The
only way to fly.
What is the most money the Green Pajamas
have spent recording/mixing an album?
JOE: We spent $250 to record and mix our first
single, "Kim The Waitress"/"Jennifer" at Tom Dyer's studio
in 1985. That is the only time we have ever paid for a recording session. These
days we always record ourselves for free. However, we pay the man when it comes
to assembling our CDs. We spend about $720 to edit, sequence, equalize and
master "All Clues..." and "Strung Behind The Sun" was even
more.
If you had unlimited financial resources
for the purposes of recording, would you change how you go about recording
Green Pajamas albums?
JOE: Sure, who wouldn't? Not that we are unhappy
with the way things are now but my mind boggles at what we could do with 24
tracks and a computer with pro-tools during recording. Not to mention a more
spacious studio with men in white lab coats running around to perfect each
sound as it goes to tape, and pretty girls to serve us tea and cigarettes on
breaks.
JEFF: Yes, but I think in some ways I'd like it
to remain very similar. I work best in quick bursts of inspiration and, as much
as I'd love to have better equipment, I'd hate to get bogged down doing 64
tracks of the same guitar or something... You tend to react to what's in your
immediate environment; I tend to take a given situation and run with it. If
someone gives me a digital studio I'll take it. But I'm never going to have the
patience to sit and enter notes into a computer.
It seems that the members of Green
Pajamas individually write a lot of songs. Do you pass around unreleased
versions of "albums" to friends and family as a temporary surrogate
to having all of your material immediately released?
JOE: We used to do that. But our last couple of
releases have been kept secret until they're out.
JEFF: I always have a working cassette of recent
songs that I listen to in my car, but only occasionally do I take the time to
compile unreleased songs to give to friends.
What happens to all of those unreleased
songs?
JOE: As a band we don't have that many
unreleased songs since we usually can ship them off as compilation tracks or
odd singles. And all that stuff from the past decade was collected together for
the "Indian Winter" CD. Jeff, on the other hand, as a solo
artist/songwriter has hours and hours of unreleased songs all organized on
cassettes from the late '70s to the present...After he's dead, I'll put all
that out.
In the reviews that I read of
"Indian Winter" "Kim the Waitress" was often mentioned
front and center. Do you like this Material Issue association or am I
aggravating the issue by bringing it up?
JOE: Not at all. I wish someone would cover one
of my songs.
JEFF: As a songwriter, I loved having a song on
the Billboard charts. Who wouldn't enjoy that? It was fun to hear their
version. I don't feel at all aggravated by it. And then there was the
check...
When it comes to listening to albums I'm
usually a 10-12 song, 35-45 minute kind of listener. Your albums go beyond
those lengths. When I listen to "Strung
" and "All
Clues
" I feel like I'm entering a world where album length doesn't
matter. How do you decide how many tracks will be recorded and included on an
album?
JOE: Recording is an on going process for us
(especially for Jeff, man, he never stops). When the time comes, we assemble
the best album we can from the songs that are done. Sometimes we will record a
few more songs at this stage specifically for the new album, just to solidify a
cohesive feel of it.
Any sequencing battles?
JOE: You could say that's when the fur and
feathers really fly between me and Jeff.
JEFF: Joe and I spend a lot of time coming up
with a track running order. But I think that our efforts in this area have paid
off for our records' sake.
The lathe-cut limited edition (250
copies) of the "These Are the Best Times/Vampire Crush" 7"
single was recently released. What other Green Pajamas songs are going to
appear in the near future and in what format?
JOE: We are putting the final touches on a new
album scheduled to come out at the end of summer on Woronzow Records (UK)
titled "Seven Fathoms Down And Falling". Also, we recorded two songs,
"London Sunday" b/w "She's Had Enough" for a single at
Vagrant Records (Seattle), but I think they are currently lacking the necessary
funds to get it out. And last, but probably first to appear, is a song called
"If Tomorrow Comes" that will be on Camera Obscura's next compilation
CD.
Do you like fans to contact you? If so,
what's the best way for them to reach you?
JOE: Sure, it always makes my day. I guess email
is the cheapest, quickest way for most of the world to contact us. You can call
me too 206-932-0615.
The quick six
Mixing session you wish you could have
attended.
JOE: "Sgt. Pepper" or "Electric
Lady Land"
JEFF: "I Am The Walrus" (Although, if
I was there I would never have experienced the wild thrill of being 9 years old
and hearing it come across KJR AM radio for that first time. I might not trade
that feeling for the mix session.)
KARL: Voodoo Chile Slight Return
ERIC: Green Pajamas - "Happy
Again"
Most coveted CD/LP in your collection
and why.
JOE: "Have A Marajuana" by David Peel
and the Lower East Side. I paid 25 cents for it at a yard sale in 1984 and from
it we got the song "Mother Where Is My Father" a long-time mainstay
in the Pajamas live set.
JEFF: "Sinatra Sings For Only The
Lonely" But, this is an impossible question isn't it? My favorite will, no
doubt, be different tomorrow.
KARL: The white album.
ERIC: Tori Amos - "Little
Earthquakes"
First Concert.
JOE: first ever... The Irish Rovers. First rock
show... The Kinks (Low Budget tour)
JEFF: Manfred Mann's Earth Band, Savoy Brown and
KISS at the Paramount Theatre, sometime in the early 70's (Kiss' first LP was
just out- they opened)
KARL: Chicago Transit Authority, right after
their first album when they were still good and loud.
ERIC: Aerosmith/Heart/TKO
Favorite book read in the past
year.
JOE: "Undaunted Courage" (Lewis and
Clark's journey)
JEFF: "Emily Bronte: A Chainless Soul"
by Katherine Frank
KARL: "Foucault's Pendulum" by Umberto
Eco
ERIC: "Secret History" - Donna
Tartt
Favorite non-music
magazine.
JOE: Mad magazine
JEFF: New York Times Book Review
KARL: "Heavy Metal"
ERIC: Swank w/Debbie Suss
Conspiracy theory most likely
true.
JOE: That Courtney Love had Kurt killed.
JEFF: The Green Pajamas are trying to get on
Capitol Records.
KARL: Reagan and Bush knew all about the
Iran/Contra scheme
ERIC: Area 51 is UFO center of the
universe.
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